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JEREMY MAGGS: South Africans are showing growing interest in electric vehicles (EVs), but interest I think doesn\u2019t always translate into sales. Now you would have read about Absa and the Chinese electric vehicle giant BYD officially launching BYD Finance.<\/p>\n
It is, as I understand it, a dedicated finance ecosystem aimed at making new energy vehicles more accessible in South Africa.<\/p>\n
But, and here\u2019s the rub, research still identifying high prices, limited affordable models and electricity constraints as major barriers. So it begs the question: can innovative finance genuinely move EVs from niche to mainstream?<\/p>\n
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Let\u2019s have a conversation now with Alan Quinn, who is chief product and innovation officer at Cars.co.za. It\u2019s a South African online automotive marketplace and motoring information platform. Alan, welcome to you and thanks for talking to us.<\/p>\n
So is finance really the big obstacle or are electric vehicles just too expensive, beyond the reach of the ordinary South African?<\/p>\n
ALAN QUINN: The short answer is yes. Finance is an obstacle, but finance is a part of a car-buying equation for the vast majority of people. Maybe, Jeremy, you know people who buy cars for cash, I know very few of them. None of us know very few of them. Finance is part of buying cars.<\/p>\n
But really, if you look at EVs\u2019 history over the last few years, go back two or three years, you couldn\u2019t find an EV for less than a million rand. They just didn\u2019t exist because mainly the legacy manufacturers are playing in that space. These were beautiful cars, they were fast cars, but they were just way too expensive for this market.<\/p>\n
The Chinese at that time \u2013 and I\u2019ll talk about the Chinese a bit more later \u2013 were really focusing on establishing a foothold in your mid-range SUV (sport utility vehicle) and especially petrol vehicles there, which they have done.<\/p>\n
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Now, if you look at EV technology, Tesla might be the poster child, but the best EV technology actually comes out of China because they produce it for their own market, for their own reasons.<\/p>\n
So now that has become a focus over the last 12 months, bringing in lower price EVs. The real game changer came from BYD with the Dolphin Surf, and now Geely with the E2, that has come in at a very different price point.<\/p>\n
You\u2019re talking about just above R300 000, and that makes it a very different equation for most car buyers, because the market of car buyers at the R300\u00a0000 to R500\u00a0000 mark is vastly more than it is at over a million rand.<\/p>\n
JEREMY MAGGS: Alan, is there a genuine demand at this point in South Africa? Now, I know that Cars.co.za is seeing more EV searches, but the real test is how many of those become actual purchasers.<\/p>\n
ALAN QUINN: The short answer is yes, there is a lot more demand in searches, but a lot more demand about any EVs in total. Because if you look at EVs as part of an NEV (new energy vehicle) question, plug-in hybrids and so on, there\u2019s just the introduction of the technology, it feels very new to us.<\/p>\n
It\u2019s not new if you\u2019re in Europe, in another market, but it feels very new to us.<\/p>\n
That\u2019s because OEMs (original equipment manufacturers) are waking up to this technology and are pushing it and putting it in our face a lot more often, which is increasing the interest.<\/p>\n
When it comes to buying, if you had asked me three or four months ago, I would have said no. I would have been reasonably cynical about that. But then Donald Trump started the greatest geography lesson in history.<\/p>\n
Who knew where the Strait of Hormuz was a few months ago, and that has fundamentally changed our market.<\/p>\n
I think this is a seminal moment, because the price of petrol and the not just the price of petrol, but we now regard petrol in the same way we regarded electricity a few years ago. It\u2019s volatile, isn\u2019t it? It\u2019s expensive. We now dislike it and that has really changed it.<\/p>\n
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If you look at the running costs of EVs, they are strikingly better. All those factors coming together in 2026, I think is what\u2019s driving more interest, which is driving demand.<\/p>\n
The Dolphin Surf, there was one month there where the Dolphin Surf outsold the Kia Picanto as a new car. Now, you would never have predicted that a year ago, and it happened. We have Donald Trump to thank for all of that (chuckle).<\/p>\n
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JEREMY MAGGS: There is, of course, risk though. Two things spring to mind. One is the charging network, is it ready for wider adoption beyond urban motorists? Secondly, dealers themselves, would they be equipped well enough to service, repair and value these vehicles?<\/p>\n
ALAN QUINN: Charging network, quite frankly, no. I stand here in my house near Sandton, I don\u2019t know where my nearest EV charger is, and most people don\u2019t.<\/p>\n
So to try and sell it based on charging networks, and unfortunately, most of the market has tried to sell it about range anxiety and charging networks, I just don\u2019t think that\u2019s a viable sale in 2026 and won\u2019t be for a couple of years.<\/p>\n
But I think there are other niches and that\u2019s where we\u2019re seeing the growth coming. There are plenty of people who are two-car families. I might need one car to drive to Dullstroom at the weekend, but I don\u2019t need two cars to drive to Dullstroom.<\/p>\n
If the operating cost of my second car, the daily or whatever you want to call it, the commute, the kids car, if the operating cost of that \u2026 then that\u2019s a viable conversation.<\/p>\n
I have a friend who lives at Midstream Estate in Midrand, and he said that he\u2019s seeing a lot of Dolphins Surfs driving around. Why? Because people are using them for their dailies. So that is a niche and not a small niche.<\/p>\n
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The second I would say is if you\u2019re a chief financial officer and someone brought you a proposition to buy EVs into your fleet a year ago, you would have shrugged and moved on to the next subject.<\/p>\n
Now, because of the petrol price, because of the operating cost, because of model availability and manufacturers buying it, you will listen to that. Those cars, remember there are a lot of fleet vehicles like commercial vehicles, but there are also a lot of cars out there that act as fleet vehicles as well.<\/p>\n
Those cars have a defined radius, they come back to a home base every night and they have tracking software that [monitors] their drivers, no less. For all of those, now suddenly I think in these niches you will start to grow a demand, and those niches will gradually expand into the future.<\/p>\n
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JEREMY MAGGS: Let me U-turn back to this BYD-Absa tie-up, in actual rands and cents then, Alan, what does this partnership change for a buyer?<\/p>\n
ALAN QUINN: Banks work with OEMs all the time. There\u2019s a word they call it, subvention. That\u2019s not subversion. That\u2019s a very different word. Subvention is banks working with them to put deals together because everyone likes to feel that theirs is a special deal.<\/p>\n
There is no such thing as prime -1%. That is a subvention mechanism where they\u2019re both working together to make sure that their finance is cheaper.<\/p>\n
All of that has happened and BYD will work with Absa very closely. They are both quality organisations and they\u2019ll do that.<\/p>\n
What I think is interesting about that is they\u2019re talking a lot about what\u2019s called GFV or guaranteed future value, which is a terribly marketed concept in the industry, because what on earth does GFV mean? It\u2019s basically like a rental contract instead of a finance contract.<\/p>\n
In a rental contract, you don\u2019t worry about what the vehicle is worth in the future and for the GFV, you don\u2019t worry about what the vehicle is worth in the future. The one difference between a rental contract and a GFV.<\/p>\n
If you have to buy your own insurance, you have to pay for your own tyres, and you also have to fill the little container for the windscreen washer. So that\u2019s the only difference. Other than that, you take the keys, you drive around for a few years, you give them back, like a rental contract.<\/p>\n
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Now what that takes away is anxiety over what this car is going to be worth in three years\u2019 time. For EVs, that\u2019s a real anxiety because the supply and demand mechanisms that dictate price in three years\u2019 time are just too rudimentary, too unknown.<\/p>\n
So that market needs to grow. There needs to be data that informs that market so that people know how to buy and sell and trade these vehicles in three years\u2019 time, because the market is so small, that doesn\u2019t exist. But GFV takes that away, and that\u2019s a very promising development.<\/p>\n
JEREMY MAGGS: Alan Quinn, thank you very much indeed, chief product and innovation officer at Cars.co.za.<\/p>\n
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