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Andrew Ross Sorkin didn\u2019t waste any time getting to the question on many people\u2019s minds this morning when Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei appeared on-stage in Lower Manhattan with Jamie Dimon, CEO of JPMorgan and a freshly-minted Anthropic partner. \u201cIs the freakout over AI-enabled cyberattacks warranted?\u201d the CNBC host and veteran New York Times\u2018 business journalist asked. <\/p>\n
Both men paused. The crowd laughed. Amodei looked over at Dimon, who did what powerful people do when the honest answer is uncomfortable: He began talking around it, at length, with great authority.<\/p>\n
\u201cCyber is our biggest risk,\u201d Dimon said. \u201cIt\u2019s been our biggest risk for years.\u201d Dimon recalled he previously warned cyber would be made worse by AI\u2014and then came the Anthropic\u2019s Mythos model, deemed too dangerous by AI company to release widely.<\/p>\n
That might sound like a yes. But Dimon quickly pivoted to solutions, timelines, and reassurances about the financial sector\u2019s preparedness. Amodei, for his part, called the risks \u201cvery real\u201d\u2014and then spent several minutes explaining why, if everyone responds correctly, things could actually end up\u00a0better\u00a0than before.<\/p>\n
Neither man said the freakout was unwarranted. Neither said it was.<\/p>\n
What they did reveal was alarming enough<\/p>\n
The exchange came weeks after Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent and Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell convened an emergency session with Wall Street CEOs to discuss the systemic risks posed by Mythos\u2014and as Anthropic continued to battle the Pentagon in court over the Trump administration\u2019s decision to label the company a \u201csupply chain risk\u201d for refusing to allow the military to use its technology for \u201cany lawful purpose.\u201d It also capped a frenzied few days of Wall Street-related announcements from Anthropic, which sees the financial sector as a key customer and a key conduit for selling its models to companies elsewhere too. <\/p>\n
Dimon and Amodei sat side-by-side in their first ever joint stage appearance, projecting calm. But the facts they disclosed told a different story about a very fluid situation.<\/p>\n
The subtext of the exchange was, in some ways, more alarming than a simple \u201cyes.\u201d Amodei laid out a detailed and rapidly escalating threat timeline tied to Anthropic\u2019s newest model. Six months ago, he said, Anthropic detected the first attempts by Chinese state-linked actors to conduct cyberattacks on U.S. tech companies using Claude, Anthropic\u2019s AI assistant. Three months ago, a prior model found roughly 20 vulnerabilities in Firefox. <\/p>\n
\u201cNow, with Mythos, we found almost 300 vulnerabilities in Firefox and thousands, probably by now tens of thousands, beyond closed doors,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n
Amodei noted Anthropic sent someone to Congress to testify on the escalating cybersecurity risks posed by increasingly advanced AI models six months ago, and it\u2019s been disclosing vulnerabilities as it finds them, including in the case of Firefox.<\/p>\n
\u201cSo I think the risks are very real,\u201d Amodei said.<\/p>\n
The Anthropic CEO said he \u201cwould guess\u201d the other AI labs are about one to three months behind him, while the Chinese models are \u201cmaybe six to 12 months behind.\u201d (Although OpenAI has released a model, GPT-5.5, that in testing by the U.K. government performed almost as well as Mythos at orchestrating a complete end-to-end cyberattack.) That means we have roughly that amount of time to fix all these vulnerabilities, he said, and there are a lot of those.<\/p>\n
\u201cWe\u2019ve identified these tens of thousands of vulnerabilities,\u201d he said. \u201cThe reason we haven\u2019t announced many of them is, of course, only a small fraction have been fixed.\u201d<\/p>\n
That is pretty much the definition of a freakout-worthy situation.<\/p>\n
On regulation, neither man wants the FDA model<\/p>\n
Amodei chose not to say \u2018freak out,\u2019 but he did suggest there was a race against time to patch the vulnerabilities that Mythos and other advanced AI models are uncovering. Dimon agreed the patches themselves need to happen faster than ever.<\/p>\n
\u201cIn the old days, you put out a patch, people had a week or two to fix it,\u201d he said. \u201cNow you say it\u2019s got to be like minutes.\u201d<\/p>\n
Both executives were asked about a potential executive order that could create an FDA-style approval process for new AI models. Amodei was pointed in his skepticism. <\/p>\n
\u201cThe FDA slows down medical progress a lot,\u201d he said. \u201cThat\u2019s a cautionary tale.\u201d <\/p>\n
He suggested the automotive industry\u2014where innovation is permitted but safety standards are mandatory\u2014would be a better model, implicitly arguing AI will need its own version of seat belt laws, crash test dummies, traffic lights, and the like.<\/p>\n
Dimon, who has spent decades navigating financial regulation, was characteristically blunt about government overreach: \u201cThey can help us by not overburdening us when we have eight regulators asking us the same damn questions every day.\u201d<\/p>\n
What both men said they want is predictability\u2014a consistent, streamlined process that applies equally to all companies, allows commercial releases to continue monthly, and targets only the most serious risks. What they have now, Amodei said, is \u201ca bit of an ad hoc process, something that almost mimics regulation but lacks the consistency.\u201d<\/p>\n
The Bigger Evasion<\/p>\n
The cybersecurity exchange was a preview of a pattern that held throughout the conversation. When asked whether AI could trigger the 20%-30% unemployment that some economists have projected, both men were less definitive than Amodei himself was in 2025, when he said half of all entry-level white-collar jobs could disappear. <\/p>\n
\u201cWhenever people put these things on Twitter, they only clip the part where you say the most salacious thing,\u201d Amodei said.<\/p>\n
Dimon was more optimistic \u2014 invoking historical precedent from agriculture to electricity to the internet \u2014 but added a caveat that undercut the reassurance: \u201cMy view of life is we don\u2019t really know how quickly it\u2019s going to go.\u201d<\/p>\n
For two of the most influential figures at the intersection of AI and global finance, that may be the most honest thing either of them said all day.<\/p>\n
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